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Post by maskedpirate82 on Jul 27, 2009 21:26:42 GMT -5
If they make it on the DS, I bet they limit themselves to about 25 characters.
My dream roster (of 25 characters):
Mario Luigi Bowser Wario (Overalls) DK Link Zelda/Shiek Captain Falcon Samus/ZSS Ridley Pit Sonic Knuckles Lucas Pikachu Pokemon Trainer Fox Krystal Kirby Dedede Marth Game and Watch Neku Sakuraba Mega Man
If you were limited to 25 characters, who would you put in?
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Post by Blivsey on Jul 28, 2009 11:22:40 GMT -5
^I highly disagree with some of those. A second Sonic character is unneeded, IMO, "Neku Sakuraba" can't be a serious entry, and you left out some key players. Your opinion, though, so I won't call it wrong or anything.
Anyway, like I said, the original twelve plus some. So...
Mario Luigi Yoshi DK Link Kirby Samus/ZSS Fox Capt. Falcon Ness Pikachu Jigglypuff Marth Bowser Princess Peach Issac (Golden Sun) King Dedede Meta Knight Pit Game & Watch Zelda/Shiek Ganondorf (but only if he's done right, using a sword) Wario Pokémon Trainer Capt. Olimar Ike/Lyn (One of the two)
Ah, I went over the limit by one. Oh, well.
I'm assuming that they're not going to go back and get the rights to do third-party challengers again. And I personally am not fond of some of the characters I put above, but I figure that they ought to be put in because they're staples to the series. I don't like yoshi, for example, but he's a very regular Nintendo character and has been in every game so far, anyway. Unfortunately, I don't know if the mechanics of ZSS, Trainer, Olimar or the double-sided Zelda/Shiek would be too much for a DS to handle. Considering that the DS has about the same power as the N64 did, I'd say that the limit would be closer to 16, but that's not part of the question.
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Post by maskedpirate82 on Jul 28, 2009 17:00:42 GMT -5
The World Ends With You sold suprisingly well, so I don't doubt that Neku appears.
And 3rd party characters sold the franchise even more than it did to begin with.
Could Snake survive in the pokemon world, even though he's hardcore? Does Megaman have a bigger blaster than Samus? Mario vs. Sonic finally resolved!
This is all possible thanks to 3rd parties. (Sora and Geno wouldn't be bad picks either.)
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Post by Blivsey on Jul 28, 2009 21:27:00 GMT -5
Gah! Sorry, I read "Sakuraba" as 'Sakurai" and thought that you were referring to the series' director. So your suggestion now seems much more feasible. Sora, Geno and Neku are literally impossible. Yes, their games were very good, and I like all of the characters, but they just don't qualify.
I remember that the rule of thumb given by Sakurai for allowing third-party characters was that they'd only be allowed in if they had shown up on at least three games on Nintendo consoles. At current count, Geno has 1 (2 if you count a brief cameo), Neku has 1, and Sora has 2. Yeah, they're good characters, but they don't quite qualify for Smash. Besides, if they're limiting themselves to 25 characters, I think they'd keep their in-house mascots over third-party players. Remember, Nintendo has a tendency to self-promote, so I was assuming that third-party characters were out.
On another note, I would like to see Snake return if and when they keep the third-party rule in. Sonic is another good one to keep fans appeased, and I'm personally quite a Megaman fan, and he was a major mascot back in the early days, so he deserves a spot. I'd throw votes to other iconic video game characters such as Ryu of Street Fighter fame, as well.
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Post by maskedpirate82 on Jul 29, 2009 9:36:36 GMT -5
Third party characters sold Smash well (especially Sonic). I don't think they'd take them out. They may only include 1 or 2, but they will have them. I have no doubts. And I thought that Sakurai said that they only needed 1 appearance on a Nintendo system. My source: www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=72642Well, he may change his mind for SSB4, so we really don't know.
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Post by Blivsey on Jul 29, 2009 17:29:41 GMT -5
Hmm... even so, I think that Nintendo would go for self-promotion and keeping their own characters in over adding third-party names. That's kinda the way they are, if you haven't noticed.
I highly doubt that they would throw in more recent characters like Neku for Smash, though. For a major fighter like this, I'm sure that they would choose more well-known characters such as Megaman, Snake or Sonic (i.e. characters with long-running, well-established franchises). I just think that there are other characters that would be put in far before Neku, Sora or Geno. it's nice to have high hopes, though, so I'll drop this here.
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Post by maskedpirate82 on Jul 29, 2009 17:53:52 GMT -5
I agree with you, Blivsey. Snake, Sonic, and Megaman deserve third party spots more than anyone. However, it would not surprise me if Nintendo (or rather Square Enix) included Sora or Geno. As for Neku, I actually didn't realize that he was 3rd party until after I suggested him. To quote Neku, I am "full of fail, as usual." (TWEWY, Week 1, Day 3)
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Post by maskedpirate82 on Jul 29, 2009 23:06:24 GMT -5
42 thank yous to Mastercougar for changing my thread title.
Rock on, MC!
And now, so that this isn't spam, I shall share an SSB4 hope.
BRING. BACK. SAFFRON. CITY.
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Post by Blivsey on Aug 5, 2009 0:04:58 GMT -5
Wait a second. I just thunk a thought.
Captain N was made for Smash. Discuss.
For those of you that don't know, Captain N was the titular character of a cartoon show involving a massive crossover from Nintendo's biggest franchises, as well as Megaman. His fighting style largely involved using items such as the light gun to fight alongside Link, Mario and other game characters. Not only does he help Nintendo in its love of self-promotion, he was also the star of a sort of "grandpa" series to Smash, the company's first crossover. He fits PERFECTLY. Sure, few people remember him, but who honestly remembered G&W/Ice Climbers/Pit/R.O.B./etc. before Smash re-introduced them? About as many people as remember the Cap, probably.
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Post by maskedpirate82 on Aug 5, 2009 16:43:36 GMT -5
Um, was Captain N ever in a Nintendo GAME?
Oh, and I did know about Ice Climbers/G&W/ROB before their smash debut. (Not Pit, though)
Ice Climbers I knew due to a fake GBA game that Flaming Phoenix bought.
It was a hack of some PowerPuff Girls game that put in an NES emulator and 69 games (IC was one)
G&W I knew due to Game & Watch Gallery (I own all 4 games, and #3 was my first ever video game that I played.)
ROB I knew due to Mario Kart DS.
Pit I had no idea. (When I first saw him, I thought he was a girl.)
The best character for Smash is (although 3rd party) Viewtiful Joe.
Opinions, people?
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Post by Mastercougar on Aug 5, 2009 21:02:46 GMT -5
All I need for SBB4 to make me deliriously happy are Ridley and Mega Man, both of whom deserve to be honored for their contributions to Nintendo. Of course, if there is a fourth game, on whatever console Nintendo can next conceive of, I expect a decent amount of new challengers! This is a slight aside, but I recall the SSBB speculation so very fondly. I was mostly delighted with the results, because I called Meta Knight, Pokemon Trainer, and Captain Olimar. And the other newcomers were pleasant surprises (Pit, Snake, and Sonic especially.) If only Mewtwo could have remained. I was kind of hoping they would buff him. Lucario's his spiritual successor, but it's just not the same. Anyway, I would love to see Mewtwo make a triumphant return, totally buffed. Of course, that might overload the number of chars Pokemon has. Let's look at the whole thing from that sort of perspective. Ideally, the series that are most important to Nintendo get to have more characters, and the number of representatives from each series should be along those lines. Mario Series: Has four characters, not counting "spinoff series." Went from five to four in Brawl. Mario being Nintendo itself, this series would always be allowed to expand. Perhaps a new character should return the series to five? But who? Perhaps Geno would work, although I wouldn't hold my breath, due to the legal complexities of SMRPG. Other than him, all I can think of is Baby Bowser. If they're willing to bring the M&L series into things, then I would say Fawful, but again, I don't think there's any guarantee. Um...Waluigi? DK Series: A Mario spinoff, but has branched off significantly enough to be allowed two characters, and I think three would still be reasonable. For that role, I'd pick K. Rool, not that I know what to do with him, or maybe Funky Kong. Yoshi: Also a Mario spinoff. I would feel comfortable giving Yoshi a companion, but who is there, honestly, from that series? (Birdo just LOOKS like Yoshi.) Wario: With this Mario spinoff, I'm not entirely sure Wario's branched off enough for a companion. Even if he has, there are so many WarioWare characters that I don't know who we'd pick. Mona, maybe. Anyone else, even Ashley, seems unlikely to me. Zelda: Four characters, five if you split Sheik/Zelda, so I don't see them getting anyone new. If they did, my vote would be for Midna, just because she's awesome. (Never mind that she's only in one game. It worked for Sheik!) But probably no one new. If so, at least give Ganon a sword, people! Kirby: Sakurai rounded this one out nicely with the addition of MK and DDD. I think our current trio say all that needs to be said about the series. Pokemon: Four characters, SIX if you split PT. So while I desperately want a buffed Mewtwo, I doubt it'll happen. We'll see what's in store for the current gang. Metroid: Only one, DEBATABLY two characters, for such a prominent series? BLASPHEMY. We need someone new, and the only one who deserves a slot is Ridley. He is THE face of evil in Metroid, the Bowser to Samus's Mario. He's the murderer of Samus's parents and a constant recurring foe. Oh, I know there's been a tendency to depict him as massive, but that's mainly in Meta and Omega appearances, and I doubt it would be too much of a stretch to make him Charizard-sized. He deserves the slot. Some have suggested Dark Samus, but she's a minor character compared to our Ridley, and do we really want three Samuses (Or Sami, if you prefer) to be our representatives? Be a bit much, I say. Of course, Other M may present a glorious new option for representation, so we'll have to wait and see. Star Fox: I'd argue that three is good, but if we want to take it to four, Krystal's probably our best option. It would make many fans I know happy. F-Zero: I think we could add a character, but who fits? Aren't there a couple villains who might work? I don't know the series all that well. Earthbound/Mother: Two could go to three, but I don't know if it's necessary. We've got options, though, given the sheer quantity of interesting characters. Claus/The Masked Man? Maybe Porky without the giant contraption; he's been in two games. Ice Climbers: We're all set here. Unless someone wants to play as the condor? Fire Emblem: Two could go to three. We could bring Roy back, but I think Lyn might be the more worthwhile investment. Folks would cheer, I'm sure. Game & Watch: We're good here. Kid Icarus: Probably just Pit, I think. (Who will probably be nerfed.) Of course, if there's a future Kid Icarus sequel in the works, it could set up all sorts of possibilities. Pikmin: Olimar's all set by himself, don't you think? We could have Louie, but he'd just be a clone. We'll see what the future holds, but I think the Captain can carry the series by himself. ROB: Not gonna get more than ROB himself. There's just no way. MGS and Sonic: Nintendo is not going to give them any more than one each. Newcomer Series: Would be most of the newcomers, I think, though it's hard to decide who's really worth it. I'd say Isaac has earned a slot by now. I might take Chibi-Robo, though he vaguely resembles ROB. I don't see Animal Crossing giving a character; as Sakurai said, it just doesn't seem to work. Little Mac would have my excited vote. Any other ATs we can promote? Jill, maybe? I don't know. I wonder if Captain N would work. I have to admit, I never thought of putting him in Smash, but then, ROB surprised me. He's on the edge of plausibility for me. Third-Party: Mega Man is whole-heartedly my first choice. The Blue Bomber has just been so good to Nintendo. Think of how many games the Mega Man has given them. And didn't he draw people to the NES in record numbers? After Megs, if they're willing to have four third-parties, Viewtiful Joe seems a good choice to me. Maybe Bomberman. I dearly hope they don't cut anyone (alas, poor Mewtwo), because there aren't really many clones to ax this time. Maybe Toon Link, but I think he's nifty. It's ridiculous to speak of cutting Meta Knight, as the Kirby series deserves him, he's an awesome fellow, and I'm sure many were as elated to hear he was in as I was. He's banned because his game mechanics are too good; there's nothing inherent in his MetaKnightness that makes him unusable! Come on, man! I would like for them to continue improving character balance (they balanced Brawl very nicely, compared to Melee), get rid of clone Final Smashes, a lack of tripping would be nice, and continue all the Smashing awesomeness in new and interesting ways, as always. Of course, this is assuming that there will BE another Smash, and I don't think there's any sort of certainty. If there is, it won't come until Nintendo has come out with its next console, which will give quite a few character options we can't even conceive of time to emerge. And if there is, I would love for them to talk our buddy Masahiro Sakaurai into taking the helm once again. The man seems to really know what he's doing. ~MC PS: A DS Smash would be neat, but I just don't know how they'd implement the controls. Blivsey's scheme might work, but how do you get Smash attacks in?
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Post by Blivsey on Aug 5, 2009 21:38:58 GMT -5
Heh, total agreement with what most of MC said. Issac and Lyn are among my faves, and Mac deserves an upgrade to playable. I would have, indeed, enjoyed playing Mewtwo over Lucario, and it's a mystery as to why Ganondorf still refuses to use his sword.
I don't know that Captain N was ever in a Nintendo game, but he is definitely a Nintendo property, thus he counts. Besides, I don't think that R.O.B. was a character in any game, either, before he was given some recent cameos. As for how the Cap would work... I'd imagine him using Nintendo products to attack. His given weapon was the Light Gun, so keep that, add a Wiimote/nunchuk weapon, some sort of weapon based on the DS stylus...
Actually, the big one that I'm surprised Nintendo didn't use was the potential of using your Mii as a character. It would fit right along with the Smashy wackiness, give Nintendo the self-promotion they love so much, and the possibility of personally fighting with/against any given Nintendo character. It's a possibility, at least.
That being said, Toon Link needs his own schtick. Perhaps an attack based on his wind baton, or just a different set of items to use as special moves. Use the Deku Leaf to glide. The Skull Hammer, Bombchus instead of the regular sort, anything really. Link has so many options for weapons; if you're going to make him into two separate characters, at least let him exercise those options, I say.
I'll agree that Joe seems like a good choice, too. His style kinda fits right along with Brawl, don't it? Of course, I have to agree with everyone else in their collective call for Rockman. Er, Megaman.
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Post by Cursed Bluto on Aug 6, 2009 12:03:43 GMT -5
Ideally, I'd like to see a villain for every hero possible. Mario's got Bowser, Link has Ganondork, Samus could have Ridley, Sonic could even have Eggman, Snake could have.. erm.. well, I didn't play Metal Gear Solid >.>, Megaman could get Bass(unless Zero would be a better candidate, seeing as the MMZ games seemed to get a lot more coverage story-wise, in which Wiel or possibly one of the Guardians would make a good counterpart)
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Post by maskedpirate82 on Aug 6, 2009 14:16:27 GMT -5
WARNING! LONG WALL OF TEXT APPROACHING!
Here is what I envision for each franchise. All are realistic options IMO. Note that this is assuming that the next SSB game is on the Wii, not the DS.
Mario: Currently we have Mario, Luigi, Bowser, and Peach. Mario needs to have his tornado back, and lose the FLUDD. He uses the tornado in his latest title (Galaxy), and FLUDD has only been in one non-smash game. Luigi cannot use the Poltergust for the same reason. Luigi needs a new Final Smash, because right now it is just too weird. Perhaps a green form of Mario’s. Bowser and Peach may be left unchanged. Dr. Mario should not return. They could make a white Mario color and that would make everyone happy. Bowser Jr. should be put in the game. Quite honestly, I do not know why he was denied from the previous game. Paper Mario was frequently suggested as a character during the Brawl speculation, but what can he do that Mario and Luigi can’t? He would just be a Mario clone. Luigi is not a clone. He has separate moves completely, except for his Up+B and his neutral B. (And Down+B if you give Mario his tornado.) Even if he were a clone, Luigi should not be cut from the game. He is Nintendo’s mascot, aside from Mario, and you can’t really work him to do much that Mario can’t, so this clone relationship is understandable. Daisy, Mr. L, Dr. Mario, and Dry Bowser could be alternate costumes. Finally, Toad will not appear as playable because he is simply Peach’s neutral B move.
Yoshi: Yoshi is really the only character in his franchise, unless you count Kamek and the Baby Bros. I do not, however, because they have appeared in more Mario games than Yoshi games. (Both shouldn’t be in SSB4 anyway.) Yoshi himself has appeared in more Mario games too, but all 3 smash games so far have given him his own icon, so he counts as this series. Boshi? Maybe as an alternate costume, but that’s it.
Wario: Once again, Wario is the only one in his franchise. The WarioWare games did have other characters, but they can’t fight. 9-Volt could use a zapper and a power glove, but no. That would be unique, and it would be good marketing, but he should not clog up a roster spot for something like that. Orbulon is the only other character that could fight, by shooting things from his ship, but that doesn’t sound like what a playable character could do. Orbulon could be a boss. That would work with his fighting style, but he’s not exactly evil. Or is he? The entire WarioWare industry is kinda evil, seeing as Wario is their leader. I guess it could work as a boss, but not really. However, Wario is also from the Wario Land games. The only other Wario Land character is Waluigi. How would he fight? He appears in the Mario Sports, Mario Kart, and Mario Party franchises and that’s it. The only other games he’s appeared in are DDR: Mario Mix, M&S at the Olympics, and SSBB. He used sports accessories in all of those, which just shows that he is not fit for fighting at all. I say no to Waluigi. The final point I’d like to make is whether Wario should use his biker outfit or his overalls. Almost everyone liked Wario’s personality in the Wario Land games more than the WarioWare games, so I think the overalls win. In Brawl, they had such low detail (Waluigi as an AT had more detail; check the dojo if you don’t believe me). If they gave his outfit more detail, I would rather see him in his overalls.
Donkey Kong Country: DK has been in all 3 games, and Diddy appeared in the most recent one. Leave it at that. King K. Rool or any other DK character does not deserve to be in SSB4. Why? Well, the recent DK games were HORRIBLE. They used gimmicks, such as the bongos. Why not a good adventure game like before? I haven’t been a fan of any of DK’s games since DK64. I’m sure most people would agree with me. The DK franchise does not deserve 3 characters. If King K. Rool were in, Diddy Kong would have to be out. Diddy is fun to play as in Brawl, though. And I cannot see Sakurai stripping the fans of their fun. Dixie Kong shouldn’t get in without Diddy, and they will NOT cut DK, who was Nintendo’s first character.
Zelda: So far we have Link, Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf, and Young Link/Toon Link. Link is pretty standard, so I won’t talk too much about him. Next up is Zelda and Sheik. They both should be kept in. Should they be split? Oh, god, yes. In Melee, Zelda was pretty much ignored. No serious player ever used her. She was in the bottom tier, while Sheik was at the very top. Only Sheik was used, and then the transformation became obsolete. Sheik should have been a separate character in Brawl. She wasn’t however. (Yes. It is a she.) In Brawl, Sakurai had balanced them out slightly more. Sheik is now used to build up an opponent’s damage meter, and Zelda is used to send them flying off the edge for a KO. However, this still leaves Zelda mostly ignored. I think that they really do need to de-sync the characters, or remove Sheik entirely. Neither one of those options are very pretty for people who play as them, though. I propose another option: Stamina. It worked for Pokemon Trainer, right? Why not here? I think that is the best option. Next up is Ganondorf. He is a shoo-in for the roster of SSB4, seeing as how he is Zelda’s only good villain. (Vaati, Bellum, Skull Kid, etc. were lame excuses. Just use Ganondorf instead.) Should he use a sword? Absolutely not. I know that he will, because it is what people want, but I hope I’m wrong. People who play as Ganondorf would be pissed that they’d have to learn a new character. This is why he didn’t use a sword in Brawl, apart from the taunt. I play as Samus, and I was ticked off when I heard that I needed to learn a new character (Zero Suit Samus). Back to Zelda. The final character is Young Link/Toon Link. I like Toon Link more, so I shall refer to him as such from now on. He needs a new moveset. He could use his Wind Waker to create winds (ala Kirby’s N64 stage). He could use the Skull Hammer as a Down+B. He could use the Deku Leaf as the Up+B. As before though, people will be ticked off. To compensate, bring back Young Link. Everyone wins. Oh. And Toon Link NEEDS his pajama outfit. New Zelda characters? Let’s see. A Midna+Wolf Link combo was highly recommended, but do we really need 4 Links? I vote no. Vaati and all other villains were lame and stupid and unimportant. Once again, no. Tingle has the highest chance out of all the new characters. North Americans don’t like him, and I agree (I am a North American). However, this game is not made for North America. It is made for the world, and like it or not, Tingle is popular in Japan and Europe. What could he do though? I’m clueless. All I will say is that if he is in, he needs to have alternate costumes of his brothers.
Pokémon: So far, we have included Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Pichu, Lucario, and Pokémon Trainer. Fan suggestions consisted of Blaziken, Cubone, Meowth, Gardevoir, and Giovanni. Plusle & Minun were also found on the game disc locked away so that a player could not access them without hacking. Oh dear. I’ll go through these one by one. Pikachu, Jigglypuff, and Pokémon Trainer are all staples now. Pichu and Mewtwo were so horrible in Melee (the bottom two on the tier list), so I don’t want them back. Cubone, Meowth, and Gardevoir just seem like fanboy/fangirl suggestions. Giovanni couldn’t do much that PT couldn’t, but maybe you can give PT a Team Rocket costume, and a female costume too. And Squirtle with sunglasses please. Pikachu and Pichu are electric mice. Do we really need more? No. So where do Plusle and Minun come from? This is absurd. This leaves us with Lucario and Blaziken. Both are Fighting-type, and SSB is all about fighting. Lucario deserves it more than Blaziken though, since he has a stronger fanbase.
Kirby: Kirby and Dedede were perfect in Brawl. Meta Knight needs to be cut. He is just too godly in terms of power. I’ve put my two cents in during an earlier post, so look it up. He should not be in SSB4. He’s not really that important to the Kirby series, compared to the roles that Kirby and King Dedede play.
Metroid: Samus should be back, because she is a staple. Zero Suit Samus will be back mainly because everyone just likes staring at her. Her sex appeal is all that is keeping her in the game though. I never thought she was hot, but other people seem to want to have “a different kind of fun” with her. Her Solid Snake codec seemed to get everyone jumping, and I just felt like walking away from it all. She isn’t really that important of a character to the Metroid universe either. Ridley and Dark Samus could be in, but Dark Samus would just be a clone. I say no. Ridley deserves it though. However, I feel that Metroid deserves more than 3 characters, so Dark Samus could be in. I really don’t care on that one.
StarFox: Fox, Falco, Krystal, and Wolf are the four possible considerations. StarFox really only deserves 3 characters though. One of them needs to go. Fox is in. That much is obvious. I’m in debate over Falco. He is Fox’s co-pilot, Krystal is a lower ranked member of Fox’s team (I think), and Wolf is the main villain. Krystal really deserves to go. But, that’s not fair. If Fox, Falco, and Wolf were in, they would all be clones. Krystal needs to be in for the sake of keeping things unique. She has sex appeal going for her too. Falco or Wolf will be cut. Which? I really don’t know. I pray that Falco is in and Wolf is out, but I haven’t played any StarFox game except for SF64, which I’m stuck on one of the first 3 levels, so it really isn’t my position to argue.
F-Zero: Captain Falcon is in. The second F-Zero representative is Captain Falcon’s overall sexy manliness. Just Kidding. F-Zero does need a second character though. I nominate either Samurai Goroh or Black Shadow, preferably the first one. Goroh is Falcon’s rival and he would have a unique moveset (with his sword). Whichever one isn’t playable should be an AT. Finally, Captain Falcon needs to keep his Blood Falcon costume.
Fire Emblem: Roy is out. He was only in Melee to advertise for FE:SOS. Marth and Ike are in. They just seem to fit. Hector would be cool, but I doubt it. (He would use an axe, nobody in SSB has done that before.) Lyn and Micaiah might appear, but I don’t think FE deserves 3 characters. If FE does get 3 characters though, I expect one of them in.
Golden Sun: No. This is not Fire Emblem. This is Golden Sun. What’s the difference? It’s just another swordsman RPG, right? Wrong. If you think so, you obviously haven’t played GS. They use psynergy. Issac is obviously in. Felix? Garet? Jenna? Sorry, but I don’t think that GS will get two characters in its first SSB appearance. The only franchise to do this was Fire Emblem, but that doesn’t count because Marth and Roy were clones, and because Roy was just an advertisement.
Earthbound: Lucas is in. Nobody else. Poo and Paula are silly suggestions. Giygas and Porky would be bosses. Lucas is a main character though, so I don’t doubt that he appears. Ness? No way. He hasn’t been seen since SNES days. He does not deserve to return. Furthermore, if we only include MOTHER 3 characters, it forces Nintendo to localize it. And that is made of win. (Import it if you can read Japanese. It’s a great game.)
Pikmin: Personally, I don’t think that Pikmin deserves playable characters. Olimar is pretty popular, so he probably will be in though. Louie would just be a clone, and the President would just look silly. Bulblax couldn’t have a good moveset, so it looks like Olimar flies solo again.
Animal Crossing: The Villager and Tom Nook were suggested quite often during Brawl speculation. I suppose you could throw leaves, or use an axe, but that’s just about it. If anyone from AC gets in, it’s Mr. Resetti. He has a weapon already. He is immensely unpopular though, and should not be in. He should stay as the Goldeen of the Assist Trophies. Off topic slightly, I think that Magikarp needs to replace Goldeen.
Retro: ROB is out. Most people don’t know who he is. Ice Climbers, G&W, and Pit were all well-received though, so I bet they appear. Especially Pit if they make Kid Icarus Wii. They need to add someone else though. I don’t know who, but they need to throw a “WTF” character at us. Lip? No. Takamaru? Maybe. I really cannot say, because if I predict it, it’s not a WTF character.
Other: Starfy maybe. Or Mii. I dunno. Expect unexpected people.
Third Party: Snake, Sonic, Sora, Geno, and Megaman. They could all fight well. However, don’t suggest other third parties just because of that. Five is plenty. Most suggestions are ridiculous anyway. Bomberman would throw bombs, but what else could he do? Banjo-Kazooie and Master Chief belong to Microsoft and I doubt Nintendo lets them in. Cloud from FFVII should not be in before Sora or Geno, and Square-Enix should not get 3 characters. Simon Belmont is too obscure. Neku Sakuraba should NOT be in. I am in love with It’s A Wonderful World and The World Ends With You, but Neku just isn’t easily smasherized. (If that wasn’t a word before, if is now.) The best smasherized character is Viewtiful Joe, but Capcom will probably rather donate another Megaman character, like Proto Man, Bass, or Zero.
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Post by cornbr3d on Aug 7, 2009 9:06:29 GMT -5
@ masked pirate Recent donkey kong games are horrible? But I loved Donkey Kong Jungle beat. (at least the Wii version. I never played the Gamecube) Though I can see what you mean with games like barrel blast. You know who I think should make it into the next smash bros.? That guy from Red steel 2. Why not? I don't know anything else that's more badass than a sword and a gun, (well possibly the gun and chainsaw in evil dead) and even though the game is not released yet, I'm all for the game and the possibility of this character, whoever he is anyway. Also, I agree with Captain N. Good for nostalgia. give him a zapper (normal b move), power glove (side b move), and two other things for his other moves, and he's all set!
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